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So I decided to rewatch Suicide Squad and I have some thoughts...
This isnât really a review so much as itâs just a series of thoughts and impressions. I will say that while itâs still one of the worst made films Iâve ever seen, itâs never boring, which is by far the biggest sin a film can commit. Itâs bullshit but itâs consistently interesting bullshit which makes it better than something like Fant4stic, which is as bad and incoherant but also just incredibly dull. I donât think this could ever have been a good film, there was too much massively wrong with it before shooting even started to have been salvagable, but I do think it could have been a lot more coherant if it hadnât been for the reshoots, re-edits, re-edits of re-edits and all the the other stuff that happened to it post production. Unlike something like BvS, I get why some people liked this one.
On that note, while I am going to end on a few possitives this basically a roast so if you donât want to read about a film getting picked apart, this probably wonât be your jam. But if like me you find critiques of bad movies cathartic, read on. Iâm not the first person to do this, but Iâve spotted some stuff I havenât seen anyone else talk about so hopefully thereâll be something new for you.
All the dialogue is just slightly off in a way thatâs hard to pin down, in the way that a lot of comprehensible stuff written by computers and neural networks is just slightly off. Itâs got that phishing email or pornbot quality to it. Literally the fourth or fifth line in the film is Griggs saying about the prison rations, â...Everything a growing young man needs like youâ, which isnât nonsense, but is clearly wrong, and a lot of the lines have that quality to them.
In a similar vein, Deadshotâs daughter is written like sheâs five or six, but the actress looks about twelve. I actually went and checked how old she was when this released, because I know white people are often wildly bad at judging the ages of black kids and Iâm bad at judging ages in general, but no, she was 12 or 13 when this was shot, so whyâs she written like a toddler? She doesnât give a good performance (which is not the actresses fault, Will Smith barely gives a good performance in this and he can do this shit in his sleep, thereâs no way a kid could have risen above the terrible script and direction) which makes it even worse, because youâve got this pre-teen delivering dialogue written for a kindergardener in a way that feel like itâs maybe the first time sheâs ever seen the script, and it makes what is otherwise one of the most competant scenes in the movie feel just as off as everything else.
The Joker. A lot of people have written a lot about Letoâs Joker but I want to add two things to the discussion I havenât seen talked about much before. Firstly, before the electro-shock torture and acid bath, he and Harley have no romance. Like, explicitly, there is no romance, or even cammeraderie there. Heâs her patient. Sheâs his jailer. He didnât seduce her, he just tortured her until she gave in. Thatâs literally shown in the film. Even after the torture when sheâs now on side he still really doesnât like her, and not in a Paul Dini BTAS he doesnât like her but he also wants her around kind of way. He doesnât want her in his life. He orders her to leave him alone and she fucking stalks him. Thatâs not even subtext, she is specifically his stalker, because apparently the solution to the relationship being abusive was to retconn Harley into also being a creep as though that somehow solves something.
Secondly, Joker isnât smart. Not only is he no longer emotionally intelligent (and comics Joker is many terrible things but heâs probably the most emotionally intelligent character in DC, thatâs a lot of what makes him so dangerous because itâs how he manipulates people) heâs not intelligent full stop. His great plan for breaking out of Arkham? Some of his goons from the outside literally just shoot their way in to get to him. Even leaving aside the fact that Arkham apparently isnât set up to deal with that kind of violence in this world despite Batman having been opperating for a decade, thatâs not a clever plan, and itâs not Jokerâs plan. 'Hope some of my dudes are loyal enough to come get meâ isnât any kind of escape plan, and nothing we see after that point suggests that this was a moment of weakness. Joker just straight up isnât very bright in this, which is weird because thatâs one of the few genuinely consistent character traits he has. Heâs no Riddler, sure, but heâs really smart and that makes him hard to contain.
Ayer made Harley functionally a sex worker in this, and it doesnât actually matter that thereâs absolutely nothing wrong with sex work or that sex work is real work, because David Ayer definitely thinks there is, and also really really hates women. David Ayer hates women so goddamn much. The only thing Slipknot does in the entire film apart from die is hit a woman just for being a woman.
When Waller arrives at Belle Reve, Croc is doing push ups. And thatâs fine, itâs a classic movie shorthand for âbored prisoner is also fit and strongâ, but the actor isnât actually doing pushups. Heâs got one knee tucked under his body to support his weight, and is clearly actually just sort of bobbing his head. What I suspect happened is that the prosthetics on his arms and chest were too heavy to allow that kind of movement, which would tie up with the stiff way he holds his arms throughout the film, but heâs not even bothering to pretend very hard and it adds to this pervading sense of off-kilter wrongness the film has.
Rick Flagg is supposed to be âthe best special forces opperative this country hasâ, but heâs... really bad? Heâs no use in any of the fights, heâs incapable of working with a team and has zero interpersonal skills, and when heâs assigned to be a bodyguard, he immediately starts fucking his client which is like, bodyguarding rule 1. Heâs really bad at his job. (Which would be fine if the explanation was that heâs a fucking psychopath whoâs 100% willing to just murder a civilian in the line of duty, but heâs meant to be Hannibal Smith more than Dirty Harry, and also if he is here because heâs a psychopath, why did Amanda Waller assume June Moon would be into that?!) He even has to be blackmailed into joining the opperation, so heâs incompetent, unprofessional, causes unecessary conflict, and isnât even loyal to the project, so why him and not, I donât know, literally any other character?
On the subject of June Moon, she goes (alone) on an archeological dig in a rainforest somewhere, finds a cave full of human remains and ancient artefacts, and literally her first action is to deliberately smash one of the artefacts, presumably just to see what would happen? IDK! We never get any explanation for that, but itâs definitely meant to be deliberate and not accidental when she smashes it! Why are archeologists in movies all so terrible?!
People have joked a lot about the fact that the movie changes the purpose of the squad from âplausibly deniable black ops, especially on American soilâ, to âpunching Supermanâ but kept Captain Boomerang on the team, but there is actually an explanation given. A really really stupid explanation. Amanda Waller says that heâs there because âhe faced down a metahuman and survivedâ, referring to him surviving being arrested. By the Flash. Who is famously non violent, and in fact in the next film in the series specifically says heâs never fought someone. So Boomer is on the team because he didnât die when Flash picked him up and carried him to a police station, and Amanda Waller thinks thatâs some kind of achievement. Like that isnât the case for literally everyone the Flash has ever caught. And Flash is a street level hero, so thatâs a whole lot of muggers and purse snatchers who are apparently capable of fist fighting Superman by Wallerâs logic.
(On the same note as the Joker, Waller is also now incredibly stupid, but sheâs mostly stupid for plot related reasons, so it sort of gets a pass? It gets more of a pass than the Joker at least, because making him comics-smart wouldnât have necessatitated changing anything else about the film)
Re: Wallerâs stupidity, her whole plan for recruiting El Diablo to the squad is... show him a video of him setting fire to some dudes. Thatâs it. She doesnât even speak to him, she literally just holds up the video to the little window in his tank and seems surprised when that by itself isnât enough.
And then when Flagg is like âhey let me try persuading him with actual arguments instead of just a weird videoâ, Diabloâs response is âYou think youâre the first person to ask? I wonât do it. Iâm a man not a weaponâ, which gives us the amazing insight that in Ayerâs version of the DCU, there are apparently just... other Taskforce Xs running around. Other government agencies recruiting metahuman soldiers. So what exactly was the point of the half an hour or so of footage of her persuading the brass to go along with it? Because apparently theyâre fine with this if every agency is doing it!
Tone? What even is tone. Griggs both has an antagonist but banter-y relationship with and brings cookies to the prisoners, but also he tortures them and is implied to be sexually abusing Harley, and like... you canât have it both ways, Ayer. This is a one or the other situation. They canât have a fun and jokey relationship with a man who is explicitly torturing and abusing them. Tone. You need to pick a fucking tone!
The decision to add a subplot about Deadshot being involved in a custody battle with his ex-wife was a fascinatingly terrible choice, and honestly tells you a lot about Ayerâs relationship to MRA talking points. Like, we know nothing about Deadshotâs wife except that she raised a cute well adjusted kid, so probably a pretty good parent, and that she doesnât want her daughter to be spending time with a MASS MURDERER! So definitely a good parent! The comics just kind of handwave away Zoeâs mom most of the time, which was the right choice, because Ayer wants us to be on Deadshotâs side here, but itâs literally a choice between "a serial killer but you take credit cardsâ and a normal loving parent and somehow he thinks serial killer is the right answer? WTF happened in Ayerâs life that he thinks this is a choice where we side with Deadshot?! And itâs not even visitation rights or anything, Deadshot wants full custody. And the film thinks heâs in the right!
Not once, at any job I have ever had, one of which was a tourist attraction that required all visitors to wear a pass, have I ever seen someone wear a visitors pass on their sleeve. Not once. And itâs honestly such a good summary of the pervading wrongness of this film. This doesnât feel like it was made by people. It feels like it was made by middlingly intelligent algorithms trying to pass as human.
Someone please tell me what the fuck any of this set is supposed to mean. The pose feels deliberate, but itâs not invoking anything I can see except the hanged man from the Ryder-Waite tarot deck, the halo of knives almost looks like itâs pseudo-religious imagery except that itâs not a full halo, the circle is incomplete on one side because of a broken piano, does the piano mean something? What about the babygrows, do they mean something? Does the Joker... want kids? Kill kids? Think Harleyâs pregant? What the hell is any of this supposed to mean, and if, as I suspect, it was never supposed to mean anything why the fuck did they go to the trouble of making it?! What exactly does the hours this took to put together add to the movie?
David Ayer has a really weird relationship with both gang culture and latino gang culture specifically. He always feels the need to shoehorn them in somehow, and itâs this weird love-hate relationship where he apparently thinks latino gangs are so cool they have to be in everything, but is also so fucking racist heâs incapable of having a latino character who isnât in a gang. Also in order to shoehorn them in here, he basically removed all of Jokerâs henchmen (except for one scene which serves no narrative purpose) and replaced when with generic racist-stereotype LA gangs.
The fact that Griggs just hands Harley the phone in front of all the other guards and soliders was A Choice. Made even more so by the fact that Griggs never actually pay off. He gives Harley the phone, she tells him heâs âso screwed nowâ, and then... nothing. Heâs just gone for the rest of the movie. Heâs not even in the epilogue back in prison scenes.
I fucking love that the first thing Waller does is tell the worldâs best assassin her real name. That is just... *chefs kiss* Everyone in this film is so fucking stupid.
I knew it was coming. I knew it was coming and I remembered the line perfectly, and I still had to stop the film because I was laughing too hard for âAh would advise naht gettinâ killed by her, her sword traps the souls of its victimsâ. Itâs the âthat wizard came from the moonâ of film dialogue, and no one could have made it work, but the southern accent is really what makes that line delivery. I donât know why, thereâs just something about it in that drawl that it just endlessly hilarious.
It really is impressive how every character in this manages to be an offensive stereotype, sometimes multiple offensive stereotypes at once.
I love how Flaggâs right-hand woman is a samurai with a magical possessed sword that traps the souls of the damned who also isnât military and refuses to speak English most of the time, but the squad are too weird for him. âYou wonât believe it, this guy Boomerage, heâs got these bent stick things, and when he throws them they come back! I am freaking out, I canât deal with this. Oh hi Katana, trap any damned souls lately?â
Harley is explicitly malicious in this in a way no other version of Harley has ever been, which is a Freudian nightmare when you combine it with her also being more sexualised than ever, and more infantalised than any version outside the Arkham games. Someone get Ayer a goddamn therapist. (Also in the vein of everyone being dumb in this, Harley is now an absolutely terrible psychiatrist and all her diagnoses are explicitly wrong, so thatâs fun.)
The fucking pink unicorn-bundle of money switcheroo. Thereâs nothing to say on it that hasnât already been said but holy shit. How do you fuck something up that bad? How? Itâs like looking into Chekovâs nightmares and finding a pink stuffed unicorn staring back.
I love the way the soliders just come and go in this. Are they dead, are they alive, have they abandonned the cause? Why the fuck knows? Certainly not the editors!
I love how weâre supposed to be really sad about El Diablo being dead, but not care that Croc is seemingly directly underneath the explosion and definitely about to die, thatâs fun.
I need to know if it was Ayer or Cara Delavigneâs choice to make Enchantress be just.. doing a little dance. Duing all the âtenseâ moments. Because there are probably things which undercut tension more than the bad guy having a bit of boogy, but not many.
Enchantress gets so many costume changes, and I want to believe that theyâre all from different versions of the film but I honestly think it was deliberate and I need someone on in the design department for this movie to tell me why because it add nothing.
I think the best thing about the stupidly on the nose liscenced soundtrack is that it just disappears once they arrive in Midway city. After spirit in the sky itâs original music all the way until the final scene. The great soundtrack DC stans insist this film has is literally only in the first 50 minutes and the last 2 of a 2hr+ movie.
The glorification of abuse in this is... seriously fucking something else. Twilight doesnât have a patch on this. 50 Shades of Grey doesnât have a patch on this. This shit is disgusting, and the fact that they pushed so hard to get it a child friendly rating is just morally bankrupt.
Possitive note to end on:
The dialogue is way too on the nose and exposition dump-y but the scene in the bar works pretty well. It fulfils its role in the story, and gives us a decent dose of team bonding.
Deadshot and Harley have great chemistry, and Boomer is perfectly cast, in a way that makes me really hopeful for James Gunnâs take on the team. A writer who knows how to write friendships could do a lot with the three of them, and theyâve been the core squad since 2011 so theyâre the ones who matter. It probably helps that whatever Will Smithâs faults as an actor, you could cast him opposite a housebrick and theyâd somehow have great chemistry.
#suicide squad#roasting suicide squad#bad movies#you could build whole academic careers just talking about all the things that went wrong in the production of this film#and some of it was studio interferance for sure#but a lot of it was ayer being incompetant#and trailerpark being incompetant#and kate hawley somehow being incompetant despite being fine on other movies#likewise john gilroy the creditted editor#lindsay graham and Mary Vernieu doing the worst jobs of their respective careers#i'm glad this movie didn't tank the careers of the creatives#and so upset it didn't tank the career of david ayer#how can you write this and fucking Bright and still have a job as a writer#how
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